General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Discussion about other teams, non-cubs players, baseball history, sabr vs scouting, etc.
User avatar
OleMissCub
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39792
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:32 am
x 1851
x 2665

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:00 pm

CubinNY wrote:To me, he's as close to Ty Cobb as we are ever going to see in our lifetime.


Not at all. I guess people might assume that Cobb was a slappy singles hitter due to how many hits he had but he led the league in SLG 8 times and is 4th all time in doubles and 2nd all time in triples. Ichiro's career SLG is over 100 points lower than Cobb's.

I think Gwynn with more speed (let's not forget that before he got fat he once stole 56 bases in a season) and a bit more power would be the best comp for Cobb. Cobb is a bit hard to do a similarity rating on because you don't see major speed guys with high BA's and also good SLG like that.
0 x

17 Seconds
Hall of Fame
Posts: 25260
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:36 am
x 1036
x 3153

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:01 pm

i love the fathers day hats

Image
1 x

User avatar
Ding Dong Johnson
Crap Bag
Posts: 36928
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:42 am
Location: Durnsville
x 1232
x 9141

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:10 pm

0 x
Image

soccer10k
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39949
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:21 pm
Location: Sacramento
x 2030

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby soccer10k » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:19 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:


For a supposedly smart baseball guy, Mike Schur has some awful tweets when it comes to the Yankees.

1. Saves? Really?
2. Rivera’s career WHIP was 1.00 so 1.08 was actually below average for his career. It’s actually his fifth worst season for WHIP in his career.
3. To use some other metrics, his 2004 was middle of the pack for Rivera in ERA, ERA+ and FIP.

I mean, I get it. He’s a Red Sox fan who hates the Yankees but some of the stuff he tweets is ridiculous. He was complaining about Matt Carpenter after about 25 PAs.
0 x
In Theo we trust.

User avatar
Ding Dong Johnson
Crap Bag
Posts: 36928
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:42 am
Location: Durnsville
x 1232
x 9141

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:23 am

The only mention of saves was in the context of “in the year the greatest closer of all time had his career high in ‘saves’ his WHIP was higher than the entirety of the Yankees staff right now”. horsefeathers.
1 x
Image

soccer10k
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39949
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:21 pm
Location: Sacramento
x 2030

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby soccer10k » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:24 am

Okay? He said the 2004 season was peak Rivera, which by any number of metrics it wasn’t. And when he says “peak Mariano Rivera” he mentions two stats in the same tweet. One of which Rivera posted a bottom 5 career WHIP and the other was a career high. Not a hard leap to make that peak and career high are used in a similar context.

Like I said. Dumb tweet by a smart baseball fan. Tons of us have made dumb posts on here when it comes to the Cardinals so I’m not judging him.
0 x
In Theo we trust.

User avatar
Transmogrified Tiger
Inner-Circle HOF
Posts: 58919
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:23 pm
Location: Greater St. Louis
x 778
x 8877

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:29 pm

Things that make you go hmmm



To put a finer point on it, 5 of the top 15 increases at his link are Yankees
0 x

Bertz
5-Time All-Star
Posts: 5538
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:59 pm
x 1912
x 2960

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Bertz » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:00 am

soccer10k wrote:Okay? He said the 2004 season was peak Rivera, which by any number of metrics it wasn’t. And when he says “peak Mariano Rivera” he mentions two stats in the same tweet. One of which Rivera posted a bottom 5 career WHIP and the other was a career high. Not a hard leap to make that peak and career high are used in a similar context.

Like I said. Dumb tweet by a smart baseball fan. Tons of us have made dumb posts on here when it comes to the Cardinals so I’m not judging him.


For a guy who got famous among baseball fans for being a sabr guy, he's shockingly number illiterate. He's had some takes during COVID that show he doesn't super get math.
0 x

User avatar
WrigleyField 22
Superstar
Posts: 17620
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:48 pm
Location: This is the Bad Place
x 5611
x 2832
Contact:

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:43 am

Bertz wrote:
soccer10k wrote:Okay? He said the 2004 season was peak Rivera, which by any number of metrics it wasn’t. And when he says “peak Mariano Rivera” he mentions two stats in the same tweet. One of which Rivera posted a bottom 5 career WHIP and the other was a career high. Not a hard leap to make that peak and career high are used in a similar context.

Like I said. Dumb tweet by a smart baseball fan. Tons of us have made dumb posts on here when it comes to the Cardinals so I’m not judging him.


For a guy who got famous among baseball fans for being a sabr guy, he's shockingly number illiterate. He's had some takes during COVID that show he doesn't super get math.

Was he ever explicitly a sabr guy or did he just make a funny running joke about a fictional law firm using sabr stat names?
0 x
Image

User avatar
Andy
Hall of Fame
Posts: 34340
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:02 am
Location: West Michigan
x 1355

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Andy » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:06 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Things that make you go hmmm



To put a finer point on it, 5 of the top 15 increases at his link are Yankees

I'm an idiot. Do we think something nefarious could increase a player's barrel rate? It seems like that's cheat proof but we've learned pretty much nothing is
0 x

User avatar
OleMissCub
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39792
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:32 am
x 1851
x 2665

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:11 am

Andy wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Things that make you go hmmm



To put a finer point on it, 5 of the top 15 increases at his link are Yankees

I'm an idiot. Do we think something nefarious could increase a player's barrel rate? It seems like that's cheat proof but we've learned pretty much nothing is


Knowing what’s coming would increase your barrel rate. And no I’m not suggesting they’re cheating.
0 x

User avatar
Transmogrified Tiger
Inner-Circle HOF
Posts: 58919
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:23 pm
Location: Greater St. Louis
x 778
x 8877

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:58 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Andy wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Things that make you go hmmm



To put a finer point on it, 5 of the top 15 increases at his link are Yankees

I'm an idiot. Do we think something nefarious could increase a player's barrel rate? It seems like that's cheat proof but we've learned pretty much nothing is


Knowing what’s coming would increase your barrel rate. And no I’m not suggesting they’re cheating.


I kinda am, they're almost halfway through their home schedule and they're playing at a 130 win pace at Yankee stadium, something is a bit too good to be true.
0 x

User avatar
OleMissCub
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39792
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:32 am
x 1851
x 2665

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:12 pm

They did get a new hitting coach in the offseason so maybe it’s that? Maybe he’s just super good?
0 x

User avatar
Andy
Hall of Fame
Posts: 34340
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:02 am
Location: West Michigan
x 1355

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Andy » Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:13 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Andy wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Things that make you go hmmm



To put a finer point on it, 5 of the top 15 increases at his link are Yankees

I'm an idiot. Do we think something nefarious could increase a player's barrel rate? It seems like that's cheat proof but we've learned pretty much nothing is


Knowing what’s coming would increase your barrel rate. And no I’m not suggesting they’re cheating.

I knew I was right to call myself an idiot, I was thinking of manipulation of the physical bats and not about sign-stealing type stuff.
1 x

big ball chunky time
Formerly imb!
Posts: 34374
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:57 am
x 4375
x 9363
Contact:

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby big ball chunky time » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:00 am

Andy wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Andy wrote:I'm an idiot. Do we think something nefarious could increase a player's barrel rate? It seems like that's cheat proof but we've learned pretty much nothing is


Knowing what’s coming would increase your barrel rate. And no I’m not suggesting they’re cheating.

I knew I was right to call myself an idiot, I was thinking of manipulation of the physical bats and not about sign-stealing type stuff.


lol it would be way cooler if they figured out a way to horsefeathers with the bats though
1 x
Duke Silver wrote:You've never been right about anything. You bitch and moan at the slightest hint of things not going right ... Suck my ass, you whiny little bitch.

CubinNY
Hall of Fame
Posts: 26943
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:52 pm
Location: Pike Road, Al
x 974
x 2108

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:00 pm

big ball chunky time wrote:
Andy wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Knowing what’s coming would increase your barrel rate. And no I’m not suggesting they’re cheating.

I knew I was right to call myself an idiot, I was thinking of manipulation of the physical bats and not about sign-stealing type stuff.


lol it would be way cooler if they figured out a way to horsefeathers with the bats though


You can't create a bigger sweet spot on the bat due to the physics, but some people think corking helps with elasticity making the wood behave more like aluminum.
0 x

stitchface
Superstar
Posts: 13355
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:28 am
Location: On a levee somewhere
x 115
x 328

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby stitchface » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:45 pm

"He should have ran," Baker said after the game. "Back in our day, the next guy would have gotten drilled."

"The way you keep it from happening [is] don't let him hit a ball over the fence, too," Showalter said.
0 x

soccer10k
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39949
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:21 pm
Location: Sacramento
x 2030

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby soccer10k » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:06 am

Strasburg signed a 7 year, $245M contract before the 2020 season. He's thrown a total of 31 1/3 innings since signing the contract.
0 x
In Theo we trust.

sweetpeteman
5-Time All-Star
Posts: 8269
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:13 pm
Location: The River
x 48
x 260

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby sweetpeteman » Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:53 pm

Mark Appel is being called up by the Phillies.
0 x

User avatar
Cubswin11
Hall of Fame
Posts: 28945
Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:17 pm
x 10220
x 6581

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:00 pm

sweetpeteman wrote:Mark Appel is being called up by the Phillies.

Image
3 x
Screw Pitchers

User avatar
CyHawk_Cub
Superstar
Posts: 11637
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:24 pm
x 721
x 5889

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:54 pm

Image
4 x

User avatar
OleMissCub
Hall of Fame
Posts: 39792
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:32 am
x 1851
x 2665

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:22 pm

Wow good for him. That’s a hell of a story.
0 x

User avatar
Irrelevant Dude
5-Time All-Star
Posts: 7690
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:40 am
Location: In a Glass Case of Emotion
x 66
x 551

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Irrelevant Dude » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:27 am

How has Tony LaRussa not been fired yet? Obviously we all know the answer, but 29 other teams would have fired him already. The White Sox are wasting a prime opportunity in their competitive window, all because of Reinsdorf's unjustified loyalty to a crusty old manager who has no business leading an MLB team.
0 x

TomtheBombadil
Superstar
Posts: 11701
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:35 pm
x 1237
x 1203

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:31 pm



“Armed with hope and love…” Rotfl
0 x
Spoiler: show
Image


"We struck down evil with the mighty sword of teamwork and the hammer of not-bickering." - The Shoveler

CubinNY
Hall of Fame
Posts: 26943
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:52 pm
Location: Pike Road, Al
x 974
x 2108

Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:57 pm

Big Brawl yesterday between the Ms and the As.
0 x


Return to “General Baseball Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest