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Postby Regular Show » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:45 pm



Damn, it's been 12 years already
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Tryptamine » Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:49 pm

Regular Show wrote:https://twitter.com/CespedesBBQ/status/1534623048128675841

Damn, it's been 12 years already


Prior, Strasburg and Price were the three pitching debuts that I really recall as being must see events.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:01 pm

Regular Show wrote: I think we're gonna target Correa, Turner or Bogaerts.


We ain't gonna do isht.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:07 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Regular Show wrote: I think we're gonna target Correa, Turner or Bogaerts.


We ain't gonna do isht.


Well, I disagree. I think we sign a top SS target in free agency this offseason. Not sure which one, but I'm pretty sure we sign one of them and move Hoerner back to 2B (not because he's done a bad job at SS. He actually looks great in my looks and has improved his arm strength).
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:08 pm

Regular Show wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Regular Show wrote: I think we're gonna target Correa, Turner or Bogaerts.


We ain't gonna do isht.


Well, I disagree. I think we sign a top SS target in free agency this offseason. Not sure which one, but I'm pretty sure we sign one of them and move Hoerner back to 2B (not because he's done a bad job at SS. He actually looks great in my looks and has improved his arm strength).


I mean, I hope you're right!
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:11 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Regular Show wrote: I think we're gonna target Correa, Turner or Bogaerts.


We ain't gonna do isht.

They have to become free agents first.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:39 pm

The Angels tried to exorcise their losing streak by using only Nickelback songs for their walk-up music:

https://www.stereogum.com/2189467/angel ... reak/news/

It didn't work:

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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:43 pm

I feel like going exclusively "nickleback" is a good way to drive down attendance, thereby limiting the direct experience of how bad they've been
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:31 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:The Angels tried to exorcise their losing streak by using only Nickelback songs for their walk-up music:

https://www.stereogum.com/2189467/angel ... reak/news/

It didn't work:



They deserve to lose another 14 in a row for that stunt.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:38 pm

Shane McClanahan is disgusting. His 94th and final pitch was 99 mph. I can't think of another lefty starter to have power and endurance like that besides Unit.

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Postby Regular Show » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:56 pm


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Postby The Logan » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:28 pm

Byron Buxton has more home runs (17) than singles (14) and only has 39 total hits. 43.5% of his hits have been home runs.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:54 pm

The older I get the more I appreciate how gd unique this guy was (and is) within the cesspool that is 21st century major league sports:

https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-do ... -premieres



The league found a way to use his greatness against him of course…He’s like the OG of Actually this great player and individual is Not That Good, I was among the parrots citing the important science…definitely helped the league cultivate the mentality that winning is overrated and often nein ineffizient anyway
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:10 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:The older I get the more I appreciate how gd unique this guy was (and is) within the cesspool that is 21st century major league sports:

https://www.mlb.com/news/derek-jeter-do ... -premieres



The league found a way to use his greatness against him of course…He’s like the OG of Actually this great player and individual is Not That Good, I was among the parrots citing the important science…definitely helped the league cultivate the mentality that winning is overrated and often nein ineffizient anyway

In a previous life, I was 7th grade social studies teacher in Kalamazoo public schools. My only brush with fame is that I taught his sister US History and geography. I remember when he was drafted and how proud his sister was. I'm pretty sure his dad was a chemist at one of the pharma companies that use to be in Kalamazoo. She was a great kid.
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Postby CoolHandLuke » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:11 am

Wait, what did the league do to him?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:37 am

This is gonna be good.

And by good, I mean horsefeathering bugnuts.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:18 pm

Where would you rate Ichiro in terms of all time great position players?

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Ichiro
Bonds
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Postby Backtobanks » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:06 pm

CubinNY wrote:Where would you rate Ichiro in terms of all time great position players?

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Ichiro
Bonds


Aaron?
Clemente?
Musial?
Gehrig?
Cobb?
Wagner?
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Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:32 pm

CubinNY wrote:Where would you rate Ichiro in terms of all time great position players?

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Ichiro
Bonds


Hmmm, well JAWS has him as the 16th ranked RF ever.

The other guys on your list according to JAWS

Ruth #1 RF
Mays #1 CF
Williams #2 LF
Bonds #1 LF

I mean, if he had played in the MLB starting at age 21 or something, then he might have ended up 5th or so in RF all time, but as it stands now he’s not an Inner Circle HOF like those other guys.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:17 pm

CubinNY wrote:Where would you rate Ichiro in terms of all time great position players?

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Ichiro
Bonds

Not very high? Trout, Pujols, A-Rod amongst a lot of other names some mentioned already. Then you got Soto on his way and even Harper is only like 13 WAR behind Ichiro and has half his career PAs and the WAR is roughly 57 vs 44. His peak WAR single season was 7.1. Sure if he was over earlier he’d have more counting value and stats. I loved him as a player and he’s truly historic. But think there’s a lot of guys better in peak years and overall value/WAR.

If the historical significance factors in he’s much higher for me, but if just peak performance/WAR I think there’s a good amount of guys higher than him. Imo. And yeah he should be in the HOF.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:15 am

Cubswin11 wrote:And yeah he should be in the HOF.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby CubinNY » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:44 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
CubinNY wrote:Where would you rate Ichiro in terms of all time great position players?

Ruth
Mays
Williams
Ichiro
Bonds


Hmmm, well JAWS has him as the 16th ranked RF ever.

The other guys on your list according to JAWS

Ruth #1 RF
Mays #1 CF
Williams #2 LF
Bonds #1 LF

I mean, if he had played in the MLB starting at age 21 or something, then he might have ended up 5th or so in RF all time, but as it stands now he’s not an Inner Circle HOF like those other guys.

To me, he's as close to Ty Cobb as we are ever going to see in our lifetime. I think if he would have played his entire career here, he'd be right up there and probably would have broken Rose's hit record.
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Postby cl smooth » Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:21 pm

CubinNY wrote:To me, he's as close to Ty Cobb as we are ever going to see in our lifetime. I think if he would have played his entire career here, he'd be right up there and probably would have broken Rose's hit record.


ichiro struck out more than he walked. if you're going for a ty cobb comparison, ted williams or tony gwynn would be more apt.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:35 pm

He really just hung on for 8 seasons (and another 2 as a small-bit player) adding about 5 WAR in that time and 850 hits, while posting a 80 wRC+

I would take Wade Boggs over Ichiro any day of the week

To have him as a top 5 position player is insane

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