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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:33 pm

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stitchface wrote:right, so how many people can name the other guy being detained? Your circular lack of logic falls flat. It's not Biden's priority but it should be - seriously?


How many people can name ANY of the other people being unfairly detained by Russia? That has nothing to do with you thinking that Cherelle Griner should....what, stop talking about this? Or should stop criticizing the administration?

And yeah, "seriously," the US government, can, shockingly, multi-task. Yes, getting home a US citizen being unfairly detained overseas should always be a priority. That doesn't mean anyone is expecting to to be their only priority, or, inexplicably, that she is "more important than everyone else in the country" (seriously, what the horsefeathers).

It is, quite frankly, ridiculous that this hasn't been handled via a prisoner swap at this point, and really points to, IMO, that the Biden administration values a hardline stance against Russia vs. getting Griner home. Also can't help but think that given Griner's vocal political stances and her general "optics" that they're in no hurry to get this done.

horsefeathers, you've convinced me; she should actually complain more and louder about this.


I thought the Admin told Griner to plead guilty to get through the Russian court system first and as quickly as possible, as in the Russians wouldnt prisoner swap an arrested person prior to conviction? at least, I thought I read that in an article. I'm not sure thats the greatest tactic to take, but what do I know
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:41 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:I thought the Admin told Griner to plead guilty to get through the Russian court system first and as quickly as possible, as in the Russians wouldnt prisoner swap an arrested person prior to conviction? at least, I thought I read that in an article. I'm not sure thats the greatest tactic to take, but what do I know


The Russians can stretch this out as long as they want whether she pleads or guilty or not; the only thing that's getting her back is if the US gives Russia something in return. Whether the person has been technically convicted or not, or if they plead guilty or not doesn't matter; the resistance is almost certainly coming from the US because it's rumored the Russians would swap her for Viktor Bout, an arms dealer. But the bottom line is that the US is going to give up a "real criminal" or whatever because the US generally doesn't arrest and imprison foreign athletes and celebrities, so them acting like that there's some Russian equivalent of Griner they can swap is B.S. right from jump.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:44 pm

Just to throw this out there for calibration, I feel like I've been able to keep tabs on the Griner case(the accusation, her detention, the legal strategy mentioned above, etc) and I haven't seen a single quote from or clip of her wife. Sometimes our media diets emphasize the things that are aggravating but ultimately not consequential to staying informed.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:46 pm

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:I thought the Admin told Griner to plead guilty to get through the Russian court system first and as quickly as possible, as in the Russians wouldnt prisoner swap an arrested person prior to conviction? at least, I thought I read that in an article. I'm not sure thats the greatest tactic to take, but what do I know


The Russians can stretch this out as long as they want whether she pleads or guilty or not; the only thing that's getting her back is if the US gives Russia something in return. Whether the person has been technically convicted or not, or if they plead guilty or not doesn't matter; the resistance is almost certainly coming from the US because it's rumored the Russians would swap her for Viktor Bout, an arms dealer. But the bottom line is that the US is going to give up a "real criminal" or whatever because the US generally doesn't arrest and imprison foreign athletes and celebrities, so them acting like that there's some Russian equivalent of Griner they can swap is B.S. right from jump.


well then it makes perfect sense, she gets convicted and then is an easy evil-doer-crime-breaker swap for another evil-doer-crime-breaker. biden has to justify it to himself somehow
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Postby squally1313 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:45 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
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minnesotacubsfan wrote:I thought the Admin told Griner to plead guilty to get through the Russian court system first and as quickly as possible, as in the Russians wouldnt prisoner swap an arrested person prior to conviction? at least, I thought I read that in an article. I'm not sure thats the greatest tactic to take, but what do I know


The Russians can stretch this out as long as they want whether she pleads or guilty or not; the only thing that's getting her back is if the US gives Russia something in return. Whether the person has been technically convicted or not, or if they plead guilty or not doesn't matter; the resistance is almost certainly coming from the US because it's rumored the Russians would swap her for Viktor Bout, an arms dealer. But the bottom line is that the US is going to give up a "real criminal" or whatever because the US generally doesn't arrest and imprison foreign athletes and celebrities, so them acting like that there's some Russian equivalent of Griner they can swap is B.S. right from jump.


well then it makes perfect sense, she gets convicted and then is an easy evil-doer-crime-breaker swap for another evil-doer-crime-breaker. biden has to justify it to himself somehow

But to go back to the original (bonkers) point, the premise that getting her wife back is the top priority for the US government is just every kind of wrong. We could do it in a second by giving up Bout or I'm sure dozens of other actual criminals who probably aren't much of a threat anymore. Biden seems to be specifically choosing not to, which means it's the opposite of important to him. Or he's just old and forgot, who knows. Anyways, shocked at the amount of doubling down being done here by stitch, but hey...you do you.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:11 pm

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The Russians can stretch this out as long as they want whether she pleads or guilty or not; the only thing that's getting her back is if the US gives Russia something in return. Whether the person has been technically convicted or not, or if they plead guilty or not doesn't matter; the resistance is almost certainly coming from the US because it's rumored the Russians would swap her for Viktor Bout, an arms dealer. But the bottom line is that the US is going to give up a "real criminal" or whatever because the US generally doesn't arrest and imprison foreign athletes and celebrities, so them acting like that there's some Russian equivalent of Griner they can swap is B.S. right from jump.


well then it makes perfect sense, she gets convicted and then is an easy evil-doer-crime-breaker swap for another evil-doer-crime-breaker. biden has to justify it to himself somehow

But to go back to the original (bonkers) point, the premise that getting her wife back is the top priority for the US government is just every kind of wrong. We could do it in a second by giving up Bout or I'm sure dozens of other actual criminals who probably aren't much of a threat anymore. Biden seems to be specifically choosing not to, which means it's the opposite of important to him. Or he's just old and forgot, who knows. Anyways, shocked at the amount of doubling down being done here by stitch, but hey...you do you.


eh, I was only commenting on an article I read and subsequently cannot find and now I think I may have imagined......BUT I dont really fault the woman for complaining to every media outlet she can in order to try to get her wife back. I would if I was her, I'd be terrified

as for Biden's responsibility in this all; he's kind of proven that his first and most powerful reaction to anything is to play dead.
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Postby squally1313 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:18 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
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well then it makes perfect sense, she gets convicted and then is an easy evil-doer-crime-breaker swap for another evil-doer-crime-breaker. biden has to justify it to himself somehow

But to go back to the original (bonkers) point, the premise that getting her wife back is the top priority for the US government is just every kind of wrong. We could do it in a second by giving up Bout or I'm sure dozens of other actual criminals who probably aren't much of a threat anymore. Biden seems to be specifically choosing not to, which means it's the opposite of important to him. Or he's just old and forgot, who knows. Anyways, shocked at the amount of doubling down being done here by stitch, but hey...you do you.


eh, I was only commenting on an article I read and subsequently cannot find and now I think I may have imagined......BUT I dont really fault the woman for complaining to every media outlet she can in order to try to get her wife back. I would if I was her, I'd be terrified

as for Biden's responsibility in this all; he's kind of proven that his first and most powerful reaction to anything is to play dead.


Yeah sorry, shouldn't have started that with a "But" because I wasn't at all countering anything you were saying, more just adding on. I totally get where the wife is coming from.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:21 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Just to throw this out there for calibration, I feel like I've been able to keep tabs on the Griner case(the accusation, her detention, the legal strategy mentioned above, etc) and I haven't seen a single quote from or clip of her wife. Sometimes our media diets emphasize the things that are aggravating but ultimately not consequential to staying informed.

Yes, and to be clear, my quote was in jest regarding the ridiculousness of telling a spouse to shut up about their partners detention in a hostile country, one she had to work in because our country does such a piss poor job of funding her occupation.
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Postby rawaction » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:56 am

What the horsefeathers is wrong with men? I have a 21-year old stepdaughter, who's a badass, going to school to be an electrician. Only woman in her class. Went back to talk to her instructor about her car issue she was having and this piece of horsefeathers proceeds to hit on her. Not some passive aggressive horsefeathers, but full out tell her she needs to leave her boyfriend and get into BDSM with him and keep it a secret until she graduates.

Like seriously? The only horsefeathering woman you've probably taught in at least a couple years and you can't horsefeathering keep it together for a 9 month program? Are you that in need of [expletive] that you are risking your horsefeathering career for a woman young enough to be your daughter? There are literally like 3 billion women in the world, the only requirements are they have to be of legal age and you can't be in a position of power over them. You see 1 horsefeathering woman and you can't control what is likely your very small dick when you are alone with said woman. It's not that difficult to not be a piece of horsefeathers. I understand, people get horny, but there are millions of free website. There are millions of women on 1 cheap-ish website called Only Fans where you can actually talk to women about your fantasies.

Damn. So many women get sexually assaulted and harassed every day. It sucks that my daughter had to deal with this piece of horsefeathers and probably will deal with several pieces of horsefeathers because she chose a profession where men dominate. Either this [expletive] is such a big loser that he can't go out and get ass, he has to try to use his power to try to get some. Or he's so intimidated by a woman at the top of her class in a male dominated world that he has to try to reduce her to his horsefeathers toy, because that's all women should be to him. Either way, if this bastard is not fired tomorrow, you may see me and him on the news tomorrow.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:33 am

Is it that some guys literally can't have a one-on-one conversation with a woman without sex just immediately being where their brains go, or is it just that a huge amount of guys just suck? I know the answer is a big mix of both, but I don't know the proportions, or if it's a distinction without a difference.
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Postby rawaction » Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:35 am

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:Is it that some guys literally can't have a one-on-one conversation with a woman without sex just immediately being where their brains go, or is it just that a huge amount of guys just suck? I know the answer is a big mix of both, but I don't know the proportions, or if it's a distinction without a difference.


Guys just suck. Like what kind of Neanderthal can't just not be a pervert to 1 of a class of 25 people 6 hours a day, 2 days a week for 9 months? You have 18 others hours, 5 other days, a lifetime of other months to go after any other woman in the world who's future you're not horsefeathering with by sexually harassing her.
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Postby Tryptamine » Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:25 pm

I may have made this rant before, but it's one that comes up at least once a month during appointments. I would much rather people ask about a scar then them thinking they're sneaking peeks. Just ask and get it over with instead of making things constantly awkward. I'm going to end up having to be one of those weird people who live in turtlenecks year round at this rate.
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Postby XZero77 » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:34 pm

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JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:Is it that some guys literally can't have a one-on-one conversation with a woman without sex just immediately being where their brains go, or is it just that a huge amount of guys just suck? I know the answer is a big mix of both, but I don't know the proportions, or if it's a distinction without a difference.


Guys just suck. Like what kind of Neanderthal can't just not be a pervert to 1 of a class of 25 people 6 hours a day, 2 days a week for 9 months? You have 18 others hours, 5 other days, a lifetime of other months to go after any other woman in the world who's future you're not horsefeathering with by sexually harassing her.


Yeah, probably also has a lot to do with the responsibility for men's bad behavior being laid at the feet of women for like all of human history. Societally, men have only recently started to be meaningfully held accountable for their BS, and so many act like that is some sort of oppression.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:41 pm

Tryptamine wrote:I may have made this rant before, but it's one that comes up at least once a month during appointments. I would much rather people ask about a scar then them thinking they're sneaking peeks. Just ask and get it over with instead of making things constantly awkward. I'm going to end up having to be one of those weird people who live in turtlenecks year round at this rate.



whats your scar from?
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:49 pm

rawaction wrote:What the horsefeathers is wrong with men? I have a 21-year old stepdaughter, who's a badass, going to school to be an electrician. Only woman in her class. Went back to talk to her instructor about her car issue she was having and this piece of horsefeathers proceeds to hit on her. Not some passive aggressive horsefeathers, but full out tell her she needs to leave her boyfriend and get into BDSM with him and keep it a secret until she graduates.

Like seriously? The only horsefeathering woman you've probably taught in at least a couple years and you can't horsefeathering keep it together for a 9 month program? Are you that in need of [expletive] that you are risking your horsefeathering career for a woman young enough to be your daughter? There are literally like 3 billion women in the world, the only requirements are they have to be of legal age and you can't be in a position of power over them. You see 1 horsefeathering woman and you can't control what is likely your very small dick when you are alone with said woman. It's not that difficult to not be a piece of horsefeathers. I understand, people get horny, but there are millions of free website. There are millions of women on 1 cheap-ish website called Only Fans where you can actually talk to women about your fantasies.

Damn. So many women get sexually assaulted and harassed every day. It sucks that my daughter had to deal with this piece of horsefeathers and probably will deal with several pieces of horsefeathers because she chose a profession where men dominate. Either this [expletive] is such a big loser that he can't go out and get ass, he has to try to use his power to try to get some. Or he's so intimidated by a woman at the top of her class in a male dominated world that he has to try to reduce her to his horsefeathers toy, because that's all women should be to him. Either way, if this bastard is not fired tomorrow, you may see me and him on the news tomorrow.



I had a [expletive] of a boss who was into some pretty horsefeathers up horsefeathers in his off time and used to ask people to join him. I'm talking things like hanging them from a ceiling by their hands and feet and a rope around their privates, using the the latter to swing the victim around the room. He doesn't work in the Seattle area anymore for the obvious reason, but he's damn lucky he didn't get the horsefeathers kicked out of him. But here's the thing about people who are really into that from my brief encounters, they seem to think its totally natural...and somehow not about sex (his words), so they start to try and mainstream it by doing what this douche did to your stepdaughter, ask for recruits at work! the nicer, more amenable person the more likely they are to be hit on as well, especially if they have some power to sway.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:52 pm

Might want to scale that one back there, champ.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:04 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Might want to scale that one back there, champ.



if it were any less destructive sure, but from someone who had to ultimately deal with it through the companies hr, it still makes me angry.
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Postby Rob » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:10 pm

I once saw a video like that [on the wtf subreddit, naturally], but the dude was suspended by meathooks through his skin rather than merely tied up with rope or whatever.

And I had immediately left the internet for the day, and blocked that memory successfully for years. Until your post. So thanks.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:21 pm

well I do apologize for that
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:22 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Might want to scale that one back there, champ.



if it were any less destructive sure, but from someone who had to ultimately deal with it through the companies hr, it still makes me angry.


Just saying; "people who are into *blank* are just trying to normalize their horsefeathers and recruit people" is a pretty horsefeathers take, especially these days.
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Postby Elon Musk » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:42 am

there's a wide gulf between kink, as weird as it might seem to us lames, and sexual harassment
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:57 am

big ball chunky time wrote:there's a wide gulf between kink, as weird as it might seem to us lames, and sexual

harassment


no, when its being offered, then pressed on me by my boss at work it is harassment.

and sofa, I understand what you are saying, and my choice of words are probably off. I still get angry about it and what I'm relating is more about all his explanations and the unrelenting "comon join us!" and exposure to the images they take of the acts - like I needed to see those at work. It was overboard and uncalled for. Thats what I mean by "mainstreaming" it, as if the office was a perfectly good place to recruit people into his fetish. its not. His explanation was always "its perfectly normal behavior". It may be fine for someone who enjoys that fetish, but I DO NOT need to be a part of it, and like I said it took some campaigning at my job above him on my part for it to end.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:21 am

Oh yeah, he was completely full of horsefeathers.
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Postby Tryptamine » Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:45 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Tryptamine wrote:I may have made this rant before, but it's one that comes up at least once a month during appointments. I would much rather people ask about a scar then them thinking they're sneaking peeks. Just ask and get it over with instead of making things constantly awkward. I'm going to end up having to be one of those weird people who live in turtlenecks year round at this rate.



whats your scar from?


Ecmo. They make an incision in your neck and another in your groin where they extract the blood, clean it and oxygenate it and then pump it back into you. It takes the strain off your heart and lungs for those who are extremely ill.
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:14 pm

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:
Tryptamine wrote:I may have made this rant before, but it's one that comes up at least once a month during appointments. I would much rather people ask about a scar then them thinking they're sneaking peeks. Just ask and get it over with instead of making things constantly awkward. I'm going to end up having to be one of those weird people who live in turtlenecks year round at this rate.



whats your scar from?


Ecmo. They make an incision in your neck and another in your groin where they extract the blood, clean it and oxygenate it and then pump it back into you. It takes the strain off your heart and lungs for those who are extremely ill.

ohh man sorry to hear that. I hope you've fully recovered (?) and not you will!
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